Comments on: Tool Review: Ideal In-Sure™ Push-In Wire Connectors

By: Yahya

Yahya — Sun, 19 Jun 2016 10:54:52 +0000

Peace...Leo53 and Steve I too am old school about electrical installs wire nuts are the best for splicing I always pigtail instead of using a receptacle as a means of a splice. However when faced with short , stubbie piece of conductor in a Jbox these push on splicers can be a big help. I think the manufactures should improve their product to address oxidation and arching. Maybe by putting inside anti oxidation paste. Also what about twisting conductors together then push on connector??

By: Leo53

Leo53 — Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:57:04 +0000

For thick wire 11 or 10 AWG only 3-port IDEAL 39 Model (blue) can be applied. :( Voltage 120 V in USA instead of 220 - 230 V in Europe results in thicker wires because the current will be 2 time higher for the same power.

By: Leo53

Leo53 — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 04:25:29 +0000

Screw connection with NUTs rely on cooper flexibility but it cannot be as durable as steel spring used in PUSH IN connectors. I agree that cross section of contact is limited and for high current connectors special attention needed. That is why in Europe is popular WAGO. It comes also with removable click spring - you can easily pull wire back from the connector by opening its izolated spring slit. It is flat and surface of contact is greater. Unfortunatly I can find it here only by Amazon :(

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 01 Dec 2015 07:33:41 +0000

"However, I would not install them in my own home or work that I could be held personally accountable for."

Uh yeah, sorry to break it to you but you and your license can be "held personally accountable" for any electrical work you do. Your business or the business of your employer can also be trashed beyond redemption on Yelp, Google places, etc when you piss off a customer with shoddy work. Let just one take to their facebook page about how you almost burned down their house and killed their kids with your poor quality work and the bad reviews will pour in so fast you won't even be able to count them all.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 01 Dec 2015 07:28:27 +0000

"Drop the old style wire nuts and go to Push In style connectors."

The "old style wire nuts" have been securely joining electrical connections for decades and if done right the connection stays tight for decades. The push in ones? Who knows, until you find out with a fire from a loose connection. Backstab i.e. "push in" receptacles were all the rage when they came out and I have seen the connections on more of them fail than I can count. Few good electricians will backstab them, instead they take a little more time and use the screw terminals.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 01 Dec 2015 07:22:46 +0000

"With traditional wire caps, the wires would have to be twisted together (mechanically joined) before twisting on the insulating wire cap."

Wrong. I can easily twist wires together tight enough using just a good quality wire nut that you will curse my name if you try to take them apart.

By: wilberto torres

wilberto torres — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 00:12:41 +0000

thanks i was wondering if you could use these for speaker wire.

By: Johnnybabes

Johnnybabes — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:21:33 +0000

Tryn to leave some pictures of screw driver into the connector. Does any one know how to paste pictures to this forum?

By: Johnnybabes

Johnnybabes — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:16:18 +0000

I have read that everyone is twisting and pulling on wire to remove from connector, well I am doing some car radio work due to some speakers stopped working only have car for three months so removed stereo to find it's been replaced and car harness was cut so short and installer used red crimp wire connectors to join car harness to stereo harness and trying to fit crimp tool into a mess of short wires wasn't allowing for a good crimp and wires were just falling out of connectors, went to Homies and found these sexy push and lock connectors, creamed my pants and of coarse took it apart to see how it works and found that if you take a very small screw driver and slide it into square opening you will push on metal conducting plate that is pushing down on wires to hold them in place and as you easily push screwdriver in it releases plate or pushes up and away from wires and allows wires to slip right out or even better if your wire is very thin you can do this to allow the flexiblest of wires to go in with ease.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:10:08 +0000

"Most old school electricians hate push connectors, due mostly to the crappy design of the first generation stab connectors on the back of receptacles."

Somewhat true, a lot of tradesmen don't like change in general. I'm a licensed master electrician, and do a lot of service work. First generation or fresh off the shelf, I have seen a lot of these push in type connectors fail in high current applications. (like space heater / microwave ovens)

The problem with these connectors is the small surface area that contacts the conductor. Over time, with conductor oxidization, a high impedance connection is created. this heats up the connector, and it fails. Keep in mind that most electrical contractors warranty their work for only one year. These are great in that situation, they make more money on a contract build, then we get to do more service work in the long run when they fail.

I consider myself a very open minded electrician, and I have installed many of these in new construction jobs. However, I would not install them in my own home or work that I could be held personally accountable for.